I read your column this morning with interest because I wanted to know your position on the swinger's club decision.
I agree with your comments about the assumption of power by the SCC as exemplified by McLachlan's remarks. As I have said before, we have no mechanism in our system, other than a Parliamentary dismissal of the judges, to restrain the court.
When it comes to sexual issues, I am probably a lot more libertarian than you are. I am far more concerned with violence, and the victimization of people than I am with consensual sexual matters, such as swinger's clubs. I do agree that children should be protected in respect to sexual exploitation, and that the minimum age for legal sex should be something like 16 or 17. To set the age at 14 is a failure of duty on the part of the government.
It seems to me that in a free society we have to permit things that we don't like and would not participate in ourselves, so long as the activity does not cause harm. And by "cause harm" I mean tangible harm, not some vague discomfort. So the test applied this time by the SCC does not upset me. "Community standards" is a test which has been used by zealots to persecute others in too many dubious cases. It is impossible for anyone to know if he has broken the law, if community standards is the test.Sex is not inherently bad or harmful. In fact at this stage of life I wish there was a lot more of it going around. The capitalist system, if allowed to work, will control commercial exposure of sex to the community to meet the community standard in any event. If a strip club decided to put a pornographic billboard on a major thoroughfare it is certain that it would offend enough people that the uproar would cause it to be taken down as a simple matter of good business sense. No need to criminally prosecute.
I am sure we could get into a long debate on this, about how declining moral values have eroded our community and so on, but I would rather debate the honesty and competence of government, and our response to violent or coercive crime, where I think the real harm is being done.
Good column.
Brian
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I always enjoy your reactions to what I write, but was away from thecomputer over the weekend. I trust you had a happy New Year, and wishyou every success in 2006.
I may not attach much more legal significance to the sin of lust thanyou do. I would support a fairly indulgent line on things like pornshops, peep shows, prostitution and now sex clubs.The secular law is the means whereby citizens preserve the natural human order, not a means of instituting and building social excellence.
The law should be defensive and minimalist rather than expansive andperfectionist. It is not to reinforce -- or even reflect -- Christ's beatitude "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God."
By seeking to use the secular law to perfectly address "equality"concerns, today's progressive gay and feminist anti-religious reformersmake the same mistake their pro-religion social gospel predecessors dida hundred years ago with laws against drinking, adultery and burlesquetheatre.
Still, as G.K. Chesterton remarked back then, morality, like art,requires that a line be drawn somewhere.I think (contrary to the Supreme Court) there really are obscenities so depraved they can scald the mind and destroy social trust, and that such images should remain illegal. This was the earlier definition of obscenity thrown out by the SCC in Butler in 1992. I also believe that society (on behalf of growing children, who undergo a long period ofsexual latency) has a practical right to restrain overt public nudityand sexuality. However, this is more of a problem with TV, the Internetand sex education, and now gay pride parades and gay park amusementsthan in the sex clubs involved in this case. (I agree with you aboutrestoring a higher age of consent.)
Today's far more serious violation of natural law and the natural human order in my view is wide open abortion and the redefinition of marriage.On these I become very black and white.As some Christian once remarked, lust is not the worst sin, only themost common.
Best regards,
Link
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I think we are mostly agreeing with each other. I think I would prefer to say the secular law should preserve human order, rather than "the natural human order", since I am not sure there actually is a natural human order.
Various groups of humans have created various orders for their society, and no one set of rules prevails everywhere. I hasten to add that of course all societies must prohibit murder, theft, vandalism, and other destructive actions.
It is interesting to note though, that some societies have no stricture against rape (e.g. the traditional Eskimos). I recall my female interpreter debating with me how white man's law had been imposed on the Eskimos. I took the position that our law was not much different than theirs in respect to murder, theft and vandalism, and she was the one who gave the rape example. Any man could take, by force if necessary, any unmarried female in traditional Eskimo society, she said. I asked her which law she preferred, which shut her up.
I agree that criminal law, and to a considerable extent civil law, should be a defensive bulwark against anti-social and destructive conduct. It should not be used, as it now is, to engineer a utopia. To use it in this way is to turn the law into a cattle chute, forcing everyone to move in the same direction, with the courts wielding a cattle prod. This amounts not only to a suppression of the freedom that individuals should have to find their own way so long as they do no harm to others, it is harmful in the long run to humanity, which is forced more and more into a sameness, with innovation, inventiveness, and just plain fun, being outlawed.
I think that is an interesting insight you have with respect to the suggestion that current day activists and those a hundred or more years ago are making a similar mistake. I hadn't thought of it, but I think you're right.
Was Butler the child porn decision? As I recall he possessed images of children having sex. This falls in my view into just about the only area where I support criminal law sanctions for consensual sexual activity. I find the idea of children having sex with adults to be abhorrent, whether or not the children "consent". I think that to permit pedophiles to possess such images lawfully is harmful, and a criminal law prohibition is appropriate. Pedophilia is an aberration which will always afflict a small percentage of the population, and we will have to cope with that by appropriate measures. Letting them have a library of child pornography is not an appropriate measure.
When it comes to adult consensual sex, I am pretty much an anything goes person. That includes nudity, including public nudity, as you might expect from my photographic works. I don't see any harm in naked people walking around, whether at a beach, in a park, or walking around the West Edmonton Mall if they want to. if you can see Arnold Schwarzenegger kill 50 people in a movie, then why is it so bad to see Uma Thurmann naked? Having spent time at Wreck Beach in Vancouver, where you can see 5,000 naked people on a hot summer afternoon, I have become pretty unaffected by nudity. I should take you there some time. It is an interesting and probably mind altering experience.
Since I am not a religious person, my views on abortion tend to be shaped by pragmatism. For a long time I was of the view that it was better that an unwanted child not be born, than to be born into circumstances where its existence was resented. Lately though, I have thought that abortion should be curtailed because our birth rate is too low, and we are losing the battle of the cradle to the Muslims. It is the duty of Canadian women to have a lot of sex and babies.
As for gay marriage, I am against it, again for pragmatic reasons. For some time I have felt that the gays have undue political clout due to their shrill political activism. At best they are 3% of the population. They are a very small tail wagging a large dog. I see no reason why the Liberals should decide it is a national priority that the very small percentage of gays who want to marry, i.e. a small percentage of a small percentage, should be permitted to do so when it profoundly offends a much larger group of religious people to whom it is a deeply felt moral issue.
Majorities have rights too.
Brian